DANA POINT ON-LINELetters to the Editor
The following letters were received from members
of the general public, through the
A friend of mine just zapped me a copy of the featured commentary from the Orange
County Register of Sunday, June 14, 1999. It was written by one of our own Dana
Pointers, Ray Johnson.
I thought that you'd find it interesting, as well.
Love,
The occasion was the Memorial Day ceremony on the proposed site for a new
Dana Point Veterans Memorial at the Headlands. Held on the point overlooking the harbor,
many of us, veterans and non-veterans alike, were in awe of the majesty of this land. This
was the first time that many of the more than 100 people at the ceremony realized how -- if
the city council comes to terms with the property owner - a good chunk of this land could
be turned over to the people of Dana Point for trails, parks, a lighthouse, and especially a
Veterans Memorial.
It was startling. Unlike some parks in the area, this is no odd lot sandwiched
between real estate deals. The panoramic spaces we stood upon and from which we
looked out over the ocean and harbor could be the nicest public space in Southern California.
Even the proposed World War II Memorial in Washington, promoted by actor Tom Hanks,
can't rival the Headlands property for its dramatic setting above the Pacific Ocean.
The poignancy of the location was driven home by Dennis Kaiser's editorial
in the Dana Point News concerning the USS Indianapolis and survivor Ed Brown of
Dana Point. The USS Indianapolis and many other ships and crews have been lost
in the Pacific Ocean. So what better opportunity to honor the memory of these veterans
than this ocean-front site?
The City Council should be commended for sitting down with the property owners
to work out a solution to the long running dispute which divides this city. Especially Council-
members Bill Ossenmacher and Harold Kaufman for attending the ceremony honoring our
veterans.
At the Memorial Day ceremony, Medal of Honor recipient William Barber remembered
that President Kennedy said that 'not only is a country judged by its actions, it is also judged
by those the country chooses to remember and honor.' That is why we should never forget
those who have given the ultimate sacrifice for this country.
Whatever plan ultimately results on the Headlands, it would almost sinful not to
incorporate a remembrance to our veterans on the point overlooking the harbor and Pacific
Ocean.
Perhaps if more people drove up Cove Road and saw what it is we have, just
waiting there for us to claim it, they would ask their city councilmembers why the nicest
park in Dana Point is fenced off from people, covered in weeds and waiting for a park
and a Veterans Memorial.
I think I can speak for just about everyone in that I was extremely proud to see
our flag waving above the Harbor, honoring our country. I can't wait to see our flag up there
every day.
I must respond to Mr. Tristan Krogius’ vitriolic letter criticizing Geof Lachner, and everyone else who does not share his views. Krogius is a member of a tired fringe group that thinks that the Headlands owner should be able to build anything he damn pleases regardless of the consequences. He apparently unaware of the citizens of Dana Point who’ve worked tirelessly for the last seven years to bring a good project to the Headlands. All we want is a project that would compliment our unique city, instead of becoming a burden and an eyesore. This begs the question, where was Tristan Krogius when this battle for the heart and soul of our community was being fought? Hiding behind the gates in his sequestered Monarch Beach compound? Krogius unfamiliarity with the facts indicates that he is a newcomer to the Headlands debate.
Let me describe just whom it is that Krogius is trashing. We are people who truly believe in property rights. The Headlands owner’s original plan was so bad that the citizens had to take to the streets, petitions in hand, and get an initiative on the ballot to decide if the original plan was something that we all could live with. The developer’s plan was soundly rejected in a landslide vote. The people had spoken loud and clear. Krogius should have been there.
The Headlands owner did everything by the book. He had control of the majority on the city council. He submitted a plan to pave over one of the most dramatic promontories in California. His council approved this obscene development in spite of overwhelming objections from the community. Even Krogius’ neighbors in Monarch Beach objected to the old Headlands plan when they learned that 16,000 cars would be routed through one entrance to the project, the intersection of PCH and Selva. This also happens to be the intersection that Krogius and his neighbors must use to get to the outside world. The developer’s plan had the city taking ownership and liability of the sheer bluff faces, and he tried to pass this off as open space. The majority of the voters in Dana Point believed that this plan was a disaster, and made their feelings known at the voting booth. Krogius should have been there.
Now, to bring Mr. Krogius up to date. The city staff and planning commission held numerous meeting to hammer out a compromise on a new plan. The Headlands owner and/or his representatives were present at every one of these meetings. If Mr. Krogius were truly interested, he could have also attended these meeting, and made his opinions part of the public record as many of us did. The planning commission and the developer finally decided on Plan A. Hello, Mr. Krogius, this was the compromise that you insist must take place. Plan A was not perfect, but it was a pretty darn good effort to satisfy all parties.
Mr. Krogius is rightfully concerned about Headlands owner’s property rights. His property rights extend to the point where his project has a negative impact on the community. This is true for all of us. I could not open a dog pound in my back yard because it would have a negative effect on the community. The Headlands owner should not be allowed to build a project that will harm our quality of life for the same reason.
Mr. Krogius has talked the talk, but he has not walked the walk. Let him spend seven years trying to bring plan to the headlands that is beneficial to the community and the owner before he criticizes those of us who have.
Barbara Frieberg
WHAT PART OF NO DON’T THEY UNDERSTAND?
Although Geoffrey Lachner finished a resounding 8th in the
recent Dana Point City Council election, his views apparently still
hold sway with the city council and city manager. High-priced,
out-of-town lawyers have now been retained in a desperate
attempt to legitimize the City’s untenable and fiscally
irresponsible position on the development of the Headlands.
Lachner has been the most visible -- if not the most virulent --
critic of any plans to do anything with the Headlands other than
let it sit fallow, a hang out for those who like drinking beer without
having to put their empties in a trash can. After almost a decade
of anti-development appearances in public meetings and
commentary in local papers, Lachner's views were put to the test
earlier this month in local ballot boxes as well as in Superior
Court.
The city apparently isn’t listening to the fact that his views have
failed both with the public and the Court.
For all of Lachner’s and his suppoerters’ efforts at haranguing
the public in local supermarkets, his fliers, and his ads, he was
only able to garner seven percent of the voters of Dana Point to
support him.
But if Lachner took a thumping at the ballot box, they really got
beat in the courtroom. There a judge ruled that this city may not
plan on how to use the Headlands without the consent and
participation of the owners.
Lachner and his gang for years have said they will oppose
anything that anyone wanted to do there. But recently, a new
strategy evolved from this bunch: force the Headlands landowner
to accept a plan that cannot be economicallybuilt. An Orange
County judge saw through the ruse and told the city that the
landowner did indeed have right to process his plans for his own
land.
This bit of common sense was enormously expensive. The City
has spent more than $500,000 on plans for the Headlands that
now are nothing more than paper weights. Not that this recent
ruling has deterred the city. Rather than accepting the
suggestion an independent legal opinion be obtained on the
wisdom of its course, the City has, apparently, retained
advocates for its own rejected approach. It has hired lawyers
from Kansas City and Los Angeles to to try to overturn on appeal
what Lachner could not convince the voters of Dana Point: That
the Headlands is somehow something other than private
property which the City has a right to preserve as open space.
The political reality is few would have noticed that the City ran
rough shod over a few property rights if the City had crafted a
great plan. But the City's plan is downright lousy. The City wants
to put a hotel at Strand Beach, favors high-density condos over
estate homes, and wants to place a huge drain pipe right on the
beach.
The landowner wants to put a European-style spa on the bluffs,
with larger residential lots, and more public open space. The
City is not only in the unenviable position of convincing an
appellate court that it must suspend property rights in Dana
Point, it also must convince the people of Dana Point that almost
all the open space that it wants for the Headlands will actually be
closed to the public.
Maybe the City will get the message before we spend another
half a million dollars with silk-suited lawyers. And, maybe those
sitting on theCity Council will wake up to the fact that their
political futures will be increasingly jeopadized by continuing to
pander to a raucous minority at a cost which the silent majority is
no longer willing to accept.
Just Say NO
Here we go again with illegally obtained evidence by an illegal
wiretap being used as if it were okay. How is it that the police
on a daily basis utilize illegal wiretaps, illegal bugging devices
on citizen's cars, knowing it violates our rights, but yet trivialize
the illegal act by saying other police agencies do it, the FBI,
the DEA: They all do it. Why, to listen to them, it is standard
law enforcement practice to break the law while enforcing the
law, and it's okay, especially if you can get a conviction.
How is it that murders took place at Corcoran, and our governor
and attorney general wouldn't even investigate? But the president
makes a few mistakes in a civil deposition involving illegally
obtained evidence, and now is impeached. How is it Newt Gingrich
got off with a small rebuke. It seems to me, as well as many
others I've talked with, what is good for the Republicans and
law enforcement from the top to the bottom, is a completely different
standard, than what seems set in stone for everyone else, including
us Democrats.
The Republicans kept insisting the president is the top law enforcement
official of our great land. If they impeach and now it looks
as if they will, then every member of law enforcement must stand
to the same standard, if you lie under oath you must be fired,
because no one's life is in the balance with the president, but
with the law enforcement agencies people's freedoms and people's
lives are often in the balance. Fair is only fair, when the same
standard is applied to all, that is what the Republicans keep
saying. So lets just see if their words are as just as their
actions.
I highly doubt if anyone in law enforcement will be fired for
lying or hiding the facts or misrepresenting the truth. Why then
this railroading of our president? I believe history will call
it a political coup. I believe the master plan called for impeaching
the leader, impeach or remove the vice president, and slip in
Gingrich. Thank God the Democrats united; and that our vote spoke
in the last elections. But that only infuriated them and in their
anger and their vengeance we now see what an out of control Republican
train looks like. But we will speak again, and I sincerely hope
that in the year 2000 you will not be able to find a Republican
streetsweeper, let alone a winning Republican politician. We
spoke our outrage in the last elections. We will speak our vengeance
and our sense of justice in the next.
Sincerely,
George Griffin
Re: Capo-By-The-Sea "Millenium" Plan
Dear Editor:
I had to laugh at Harold Kaufman’s latest campaign mailer where he suddenly is interested in "fixing the city’s image." Kaufman goes on to say that the "council is in disrepair," and we deserve a "rancor free environment." Why the sudden reversal, Kaufman? I regularly watch the council meetings, and it has been Harold Kaufman, even when his people were in the majority, that was vitriolic, negative, and constantly picking fights with members of the audience, and his fellow council members.
I do, however, agree with Mr. Kaufman. We should have a rancor free council, where the members are more interested in doing the city’s business than pursuing their personal vendettas. That is why I will not be voting for Harold Kaufman.
Sincerely,
Barbara Frieberg
Gentleman, Thank you for the kind comments. The reason that quote was used was not to invoke the Bible,
but because when asked for support for the homeless shelter in Dana Point, some residents' attitude was
characterized by the quote, "Am I my brothers' keeper?" This is viewed as a justification for
not doing anything for the impoverished. It was simply our intent to point out that in the original
context, it was not the "good guys" who employ this line of reasoning. However, helping the homeless is
not just an act of charity. When the homeless are helped by responsible programs, they are harmless, but when
neglected, they represent a significant danger to public safety.
Just learned of your existance. You have an interesting approach, but I can't seem to find any identification as to who you really are. Most journals give the name and address of those who are publishing and editing them. Immediately, I must tell you I was the columnist you slammed for using ambulance. How-some-ever, if you read my column regularly, you would know I meant to use ambulance, but not everybody enjoys quirkiness. I wrote for the DPN for three years but quit recently so, unfortunately, I cannot give you more fodder for your anonymous pot shots. I have been a professional journalist and author for over 35 years and I don't mind if you know my name: George Mair, P.O. 5335, Dana Point and GMAIR8001@AOL.COM. Who and what are you?
We apologize for any hurt feelings that may have occurred as a result of DPOnline's critique
of the Dana Point News. The intent of the piece was not to hurt anybody, but to discuss openly the
seeming bias of the Editor in favor of police-state policies. DP News is the only local paper, and
it does serve a purpose in the community of Dana Point.
On November 3, 1998 you will have an opportunity to make a difference for Dana Point.
This is election day. You have the power to direct the course of our city.
The issues are clear: Development of the Headlands and Capistrano by the Sea;
revitalization of our harbor, crime and blight in parts of our city, the El Toro airport
proposal, and the ever continuing pollution of our oceans.
I am a candidate for the Dana Point City Council. I have solutions for these problems
and I would like to share them with you. If you would like information e-mailed
to you please visit my website at http://members.home.net/joelbishop.
Your vote is important to our community. Please make a difference. Please vote.
I am a regular citizen like you and not a marketing business.
Joel Bishop Candidate, Letters , Why don’t we just cut to the chase on the development of the headlands. Let’s put the Community Plan which has no hotel and scads of open space, the city’s plan A, which has a hotel and 185 homes, and the Headlands owner’s new plan which has over 200 homes, a hotel , and 75,000 square feet of commercial on the ballot and let the voters decide which one is best for our city. May the best plan win. If Mr. Edwards and the LA Times’ plan is so great, they should welcome this opportunity to resolve the matter once and for all. Once the headlands owners are victorious at the polls ,as they are certain to be, they can start their bulldozers, and become one step closer to their pot of gold at the end of their rainbow. Sincerely,
Ralph Moreno Dear Editor, I don’t mean to rain on Stanford Edward / Chandis Sherman’s public relations parade, but their all out push to sell their "new and Improved" headlands plan is a joke. If you take their plan and put it side by side with the plan that was tossed out by the voters you will see that there is very little difference between the two. Their petition drive to get the hotel off Strands Beach was for the most part bogus. Sadly, they had to resort to trickery to get signatures. They didn’t tell anyone that the hotel in the city’s plan, with public access, would be replaced with a gated community of million dollar homes, and no public access. Their paid signature gatherers were telling people that the hotel was going to be replaced by a public park. I think that it would be poetic justice if the city made them do exactly that. A public park is a great idea. They have 5,600 signatures to prove it. Thank you, Sarah Ferris
I really enjoy some of your material. Refreshingly honest. On your city
council update, there are really three seats available. Have a great day...
Joel Bishop
I've just added a link from the Dana Point Headlands Reserve website to
your article at
http://www.web2010.com/marceric/danapoint/news34.htm.
It would be great if you could add a link from Dana Point On-Line
to the headlands site at
Thanks for the article!
Dan Busarow
If you are going to blame anyone for the fact that the Endeavor will not dock in Dana Point blame the county of Orange for not dredging the harbor which is currently too shallow to allow a vessel of that size in. But your publication(?) is only interested in putting forth one individuals point of view, that being the mysterious webmaster of this site.
Why don't you let people know who you are instead of hiding behind this lame freebie web site. Since you are quick to put up favorable comments about the Headlands Developers destruction of our last, best piece of land I assume you are another of their little lapdogs like their bogus postcard crew.
Cliff Wassmann
No one is hiding here at Dana Point On-Line, which is a community effort. One of the principals is Marc Eric Ely-Chaitlin,
who is not in favor of the Headlands development; you should make as many contributions
to Dana Point as Mr. Ely-Chaitlin and his family have done.
This is America. Everyone has a right to voice their opinions; why don't
you write an article in opposition? We would be happy to run it. It's
easy for you to criticize the media, why don't you act instead of complain?
Why don't you put up a website, or do something other than criticize people in the community who are not silent? The
bottom line is the officials appointed to bring the Endeavor to Dana Point dropped the
ball; they either did not have the connections, or they were not enthusiastic enough
to make it happen.
Just read your latest article on the headlands by brian devine.
Well done.
If we can get the political clowns out of the middle of this, maybe we can all start using the Headlands, instead of letting it hide behind a big old fence.
If that means letting the new owners do their plan, instead of doing what the bureaucrats want, well, it might not be the best choice, but let's get it done.
Pete Darwin
7/17/98
Dana Point United's Jim Davy reminds me of the aging
liberal queens on the Sunday mornings CNN political talk shows.
When you disprove his argument, even when you have presented him
with irrefutable evidence, he doesn't give an inch. Case in point
is his insistence that the Headlands owner did not finance Harold
Kaufman's city council campaign. He prefers to stink up the room
with their denial, and personally attack the messenger.
Davy is right in one respect. The Headlands owner
did not hand Harold Kaufman $20,000 in a paper bag to use in his
campaign. That would have been illegal. What Sherman Chandis did
was form a political action committee. A PAC can spend an unlimited
amount on a candidates behalf. This makes it possible for the
big developers to buy elections. This is called a loophole.
Kaufman claims that he didn't know what the Headlands
owner's PAC was doing on his behalf. Please, Harold, Don't make
me laugh. My lips are chapped.
Dick McKaig brings up an interesting point in his
recent letter to the DP News regarding the purchase of city hall
. Another brainchild of Councilman Kaufman. The city hired a professional
real estate appraiser for $25,000 of our tax money to tell them
what the property was worth. It appraised for $2,900,000. Kaufman,
Lloreda, and former councilwoman Curreri voted to spend $4,100,000
for the property. The unwashed taxpayers got hosed for $1,200,000.
Grand jury material? Maybe. What happened to our $1,200,000, Harold?
To add insult to injury, Kaufman is telling us that
this was a screaming deal because the property, according to his
calculations, showed a 12% percent return. If they hadn't given
away the farm and paid what the property was worth, the city would
be realizing close to 18 percent. One must note that the city doesn't pay any property tax or debt service. Give any of us the same deal, and we'll make the dumbest real estate buy in town look like a gold plated winner. Thank you Harold, but please don't try to kiss my baby during the next city council campaign.
Jack Roberts
Jeff Chambers
On May 4, 1998, Headlands Reserve LLC acquired Chandis
Securities 50% interest in the Dana Point Headlands property.
Soon, we will have an office in Dana Point, CA located at 24849
Del Prado, upstairs in the Ralphs Shopping Center.
We look forward to working with the community, and
will be sharing our vision of the Headlands with the City of Dana
Point in the coming weeks.
Please direct any questions to Jeff Chambers at (949)
488-8806. |
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